Sunday, May 29, 2011

New Kingsford Charcoal - Burns Too Hot and Does Not Have Charcoal Flavor

New Kingsford Charcoal

I am not at all happy with the new Kingsford charcoal. It burns way too hot and fast, and it does not have that distinctive Kingsford flavor. I think Kingsford made a "new Coca Cola" fail move with a favorite brand that was perfectly wonderful before they started messing with it.

I've been grilling for over 35 years, and my first pick brand for charcoal is Kingsford - or it was. Although I know the foodie trend is to favor natural lump which is said to give a hotter burn and cleaner flavor, I found Kingsford to be perfect. It did not burn super hot which is why a lot of people burn the outside of foods with it still uncooked in the middle. I see this all the time especially at tailgate events (not on my grill - but newer grillers or those who don't grill often). And, I personally love the rich charcoal flavor that Kingsford used to have. That extra flavor is especially nice on burgers and steak.

This is not the first time I've used the new Kingsford. The other time I had the Mesquite flavored and thought perhaps that was the difference. Since I just finished up my back stock of barbecue charcoal and since they had a great sale going on, I decided to go with the Original Kingsford. The deal was 2 twenty pound bags for $9.98. That is a great price. The bags were, however, shrink wrapped together partially which meant lifting 40 pounds up on the grocery store conveyor belt at once and then loading and unloading. The plastic does not totally cover the bags, so I had a mess in my car seat and also on the front of my shirt.

Although Kingsford does have the Original charcoal in the familiar blue bag, the bag (other than these sale bags I bought) are smaller. The company says that they made the briquettes smaller and that they burn hotter and longer. They also have grooves which they state mean they light up easier. Other than those things, this is supposed to be the Kingsford charcoal many of us know and love.

When I put the Kingsford Original (new version) in the chimney starter, I went inside as typical. It usually takes 15 minutes or so for a full chimney starter to be hot and ready to use. When I went out to check, the charcoal was basically gone. OK. I added more charcoal and watched it. Within 3 or 4 minutes, it was ready to go in the grill.

My son went out to put on the steaks but had to come in to get a grill glove. This has not been necessary before with a 22.5 Weber kettle. So, the charcoal was cleary burning hot even with the lid on. Fortunately I had offset the charcoal, so the steaks did not burn. They were, however, more done than we like due to the really high heat.

The night before last I decided to grill a pork loin and decided I'd better do the grilling duties, since the guys have not done a loin over charcoal. I ran into the same problem with the charcoal burning down right in the chimney starter and had to add more once I put the briquettes in the Weber. These caught right up and were burning hot as blazes which you don't want with a whole pork loin.

When I went out to check the grill and charcoal, I touched the lid handle and burned my hand. Geez. I forgot about my son mentioning that now being an issue. After I got the grill glove and looked into the grill, it was all singed (including the side handles) and had white ash particles all over. The charcoal was almost gone again. Added a little more. Very annoying.

The Weber kettle is usually easy to use for a slower smoke on a pork loin, but it was very labor intensive trying to damp down the heat with the the new Kingsford charcoal. To make matters even worse, the charcoals were so hot that they slightly warped the Weber kettle lid. Now it does not close up tight. This is an 8 year old grill, and I've never had problems with a Weber. This is a case of the charcoal burning insanely hot. So, they are right that it burns hotter, but they are dead wrong that it burns longer. The new Kingsford charcaol is gone in a heartbeat, meaning you have to try to add charcoal to a terribly hot grill. No fun.

The heat and fast burn are issues certainly, but the biggest beef I have about the new Kingsford charcoal with is billed as the Original is that they wrecked the flavor. Food tastes like it has been grilled over natural lump or maybe hardwood or pellets. It just has a little smoke flavor and not a charcoal flavor. This is not the flavor I grew up with and loved. If I wanted wood smoked, then I'd just buy natural lump or get some wood off the woodpile. I buy Kingsford charcoal (or I did), because it did taste different, and I happen to like that distinct charcoal taste.

I sure hope Kingsford puts the real deal back on the market. The new Kingsford charcoal burns way too hot and fast. It made my grill lid handle hot enough to burn my hand and warped my Weber grill lid. And, the steaks and pork loin just weren't all that with ash on them and semi-wood smoke flavor (but not quite that). All in all, the new Kingsford is a bust. I'll just pick up a store brand or something, unless Kingsford brings back real charcoal.

8 comments:

H. Mikael said...

I thought it was just me, but this last weekend when I used the new charcoal, I nearly burned my hand because my grill lid handle was so hot! I've never had to use gloves to remove the lid before. As for how long the briquettes lasted -- I did not notice any difference.

John Dawson said...

Cyndi - I've been a huge Kingsford fan for most of my life. I have to respectfully disagree with your opinion of the "new" (although it's not really new anymore) Kingsford formulation. I posted an in-depth, although quasi-scientific side-by-side review of the old and new formulations on my blog and I don't see the huge differences that you described.

Perhaps you got a bad bag, I don't know. I do know that Kingsford is the best-selling and the winning-est charcoal in the world, and for good reason.

Just my thoughts,
John

Grill Girl said...

Hi John - I do know that Kingsford charcoal changed over to the smaller size and the ridges in 2006. I wan't real keen on that. I did adjust. But, this new Kingsford charcoal is just way too hot and lacks flavor. As you say though, it could be the batch. I might buy more, but I do hesitate.

I'm a Kingsford girl. That is what my Dad used. I've used it all these years too. So, it never crossed my mind that I'd have a charcoal fail. I've stood firm on Kingsford even with the natural lump being the "hot" charcoal on the block.

It really is a shame that my Weber lid does not fit right now. That is a high dollar charcoal mishap. So, I'm not sure what I'll do in terms of charcoal. I guess I can play around, since the grill is already warped now.

Anonymous said...

Wholeheartedly and sadly agree with much I'm reading here. I've been using these coals nearly 30 years, always had rave reviews for them, made fun (and often was the envy) of my gas grilling buddies, they always came back for that good taste. Unfortunately Kingsford charcoal briquettes have changed not for the better. The narrower ridged briquettes get hot real fast, become brittle too soon, die quickly (used to be able to cook multiple times with the same coals or only with minor reinforcement), and break or fall through the grate rendering them useless. And what is this layer of crap forming up and around all the vent holes on the lid now? It's impossible to put up with this anymore because the flavor of the meat is now suffering, and that's just unforgivable. Defeats the whole purpose of grilling a tasty meal outside in the first place. Time for a change. I'm looking hard at my other(non-gas grilling) options, something I never thought I'd do.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad I'm not the only one! I had been using Kingsford since I was a kid (at least 30 years)! I hope they offer a "Kigsforf Classic" as Coke did for us that prefer the old formula.

If you have a Kroger in your area, try the Kroger brand charcoal. It's not exactly like Kingdsford was, but it's pretty close. The first time I tried the Kroger brand, it was Ahhh, there's that taste! ;)

Deborah said...

Thanking the poster who suggested Kroger charcoal. We have used Kingsford solely for decades, grill year round more often than I run the stove, but charred, tasteless food is not why we do it.

Anonymous said...

I too have had the same problems on my last two smoking outings. Super hot real quick then a complete die off and nothing but ash in like an hour to a hour and a half. I was thinking it had to be the charcoal but could not say for sure.

Unknown said...

I love the new hotter charcoal, and i'll explain why.

#1 Cook to temp, not to time. Use a probe thermometer and use the following temps:

Poultry 165f
Pork (Not ground) 150f
Ground Beef 155f
Ground Pork 160f
Ground Turkey 170f
Beef steak (any temp you want, my GF likes 110f, I like 130f)

If you're not doing this already try it, you will probably like the results quite a bit.

#2 An extremely hot fire is not a bad thing. I learned to grill over campfires in Arizona using ironwood coals, it was much like cooking on a forge. But you would not believe the difference a very hot bed of coals makes compared to a "warm" bed of coals. On top of that I use an electric bellows to blow to coals before I put on a steak. (I have actually melted a probe thermometer doing this, you can easily reach 700f) Which leads me to #3.

#3 Treat your grill as a consumable. I use a Smokey Joe from Weber and it lasts me maybe 2 years. I use a Weber chimney full of charcoal for one grilling and it comes up to almost 1" below the grill surface. This makes for an incredibly hot fire. The steaks go on first and are done in maybe 2-3 minutes. Then I put on something that takes longer like pork or chicken and leave it to "slow cook" over the cooler remaining coals.

#4 Use REAL charcoal. Not the little bricks formed out of sawdust I mean the real chunks of wood that you have to break apart. The flavor is well worth it, and it holds it's heat much better in the chimney.

Try it, I have a feeling you'll like the results :)